Tomohiko Tsujimoto x Mirai Moriyama talk about their first new work in 2 years from “Kyuukakuushio”!

``Kyukakuushio'' is a performance unit led by Tomohiko Tsujimoto and Mirai Moriyama. Since its launch in 2010, the duo, who have always been at the cutting edge of the times, will appear at Yokohama Red Brick Warehouse No. 1 with their new work ``Wonderful Coincidence Chirashite'' for the first time in two years. What are they looking for and aiming for?
In preparation for the performance of the new work, a creation event will be held in May of this year in Hazu, Nishio City, Aichi Prefecture. Furthermore, we are planning to create in Hong Kong from October 28th. Before leaving for Hong Kong, we spoke to the two, who were bumping into each other in the rehearsal room.

*Mr. Tsujimoto's "Tsuji" has one dot, but depending on the environment, it may be displayed as two dots.

First of all, what is "Kyuukakuushio"?

Moriyama : We were originally a unit that I started with Tomo-san (Tomohiko Tsujimoto) in 2010. This time, as a trial, all nine of us, including the staff, will be members of Kyukakuushio, and we will be involved in creation from a non-universal standpoint and will be building the work.
When creating a work, it is necessary for someone to take the initiative, and that is Tomo-san's and my role. However, I was concerned that in the process leading up to that point, for example, lighting and sound staff often ended up "waiting for instructions." Such "vertical relationships" may be common in Japan, but I want to change that. Even though we ultimately make the decision, we want to create a level relationship in the process leading up to that point. I would like to create a relationship where each person can make proposals independently.

Tsujimoto: If I'm going to do this, I want to continue doing it for the next 10 years, and to that end, I also want to keep the members as few as possible.

Moriyama : In the works that we are involved in on a daily basis, relationships often end up being temporary, with parties disbanding once a piece of work is finished. This is also an attempt to see how far we can go to create a continuous environment and produce works with a fixed group of members.

The two of you have been together since 2010. Has your relationship changed?

Tsujimoto: A lot has changed. I think the biggest change was that I became more positive about the talent of my opponents. Respect changes the way you say things, the way you ask questions, and the way you create things. Of course, there was respect from the time we met, but on the flip side, there was also some negativity. It's like, ``It's great, but I think it's different.''

Moriyama's criticism may have been strong. Every time we went to see each other's works, we would say to each other, ``What was that like?'' and ``That was a no-no.'' If you have that kind of relationship, maybe it would be better to try it together. ``Kyuukakuushio'' was created at Tomo's suggestion.

TsujimotoI think it's a kind of "shared responsibility" idea, where if the two of you are making it together, you won't criticize it.

Moriyama : It's true that our relationship has changed since we started working together in 2010. There is no more unnecessary criticism (lol).

It's not that Tsujimoto Naka is bad, but I think he tends to receive more criticism than praise because he works hard to improve his performance in the arts.

Moriyama : Ever since I met Tomo-san, I've been inspired by a lot of things, and his words have stuck with me, and they've become elements that help me imagine my own body. Since then, I have gained a lot of experience and started to take the initiative in starting my own performance.
Tomo-san is Tomo-san, and in the past, he used to focus on being a dancer himself rather than choreographing for others, but now he dances on his own, but he also actively choreographs. So I feel like I'm involved with it from a different perspective than before.
When we last performed in 2017, I think the mindset was different from now, and I myself was still relatively inexperienced. For me, I still felt a sense of nervousness dancing in front of Tomo-san, and during that time we had a lot of dialogue, and I think the work that came out of that was interesting.
Two years have passed since then. I feel like a different kind of dialogue is happening now.

Do you feel like you understand without me having to say it?

Moriyama : That's not true. I won't know unless you tell me (lol).

Tsujimoto: Rather than criticizing or critiquing, I feel like we are working together. Because we both feel that we are "creating one thing."

Moriyama : We didn't choose nine members because we thought it would turn out like this from the beginning. At least it wasn't for me. However, by having nine people, I realized that the work doesn't just depend on the relationship between the two of us. As a creator, there are parts where I look at things from a bird's-eye view, and there are other parts where I deliberately enter into the picture from a subjective perspective. It's not that I don't feel nervous dancing in front of Tomo-san anymore, but my body has to recover from that feeling in a different way because I'm facing eight people instead of just two.

Experienced rice planting work at Creation in Hazu, Nishio City, Aichi Prefecture

Tsujimoto : I wanted to experience the ``work movements'' that the Japanese had practiced, such as rice planting and rice harvesting. I've been saying this for years, and now it's finally happening.

Moriyama : Yes, it was great to be able to have a training camp with nine of us. Farming has become a faraway thing for us these days, but I still believe that we have risen up as a farming people. Therefore, even in our daily movements, there are many movements that are rooted in the earth. When I thought about this, I always had a desire to experience what it means to be a typical Japanese person, thinking, ``First of all, I have to go into a rice field.''

[In May of this year, we held an artist-in-residence in Hazu, Nishio City, Aichi Prefecture. On the final day, we invited the local people who had helped us out and held a show in the rice fields.

Are you swimming?

Tsujimoto: I'm not swimming (lol).

Moriyama : I think I swam a little (lol). What was surprising was that the mud didn't taste like mud. I thought that if I put rice water in my mouth, it would smell like mud, like I would spit it out, but I was surprised that there was no unpleasant smell at all.

TsujimotoAt first, my impression was that it was a little dirty, but as I removed weeds and cultivated it, I felt that it started to become cleaner.
And slime. I'll never forget the ``fumu numeru'' motion, which is included in the senryu poem that all the members sang together. I think the movement you make when you step on your feet changes depending on whether you have actually had that experience, and the meaning will be different. I had been paying attention to this for a long time, so I felt a sense of accomplishment knowing that I had done it.
Another. Although you can't see it in the video, there were other customers around at the time, and they were laughing out loud. We express our bodies in a stoic way, but I'm glad we were able to do something poignant and interesting at the other end of the spectrum.

Moriyama : That's the fundamental part.

Tsujimoto : I was happy that the people who watched it were happy. I think when he and I stand on stage facing each other, a unique atmosphere of tension is created. As a contrast, I feel like I was able to reaffirm that we have different charms. I was able to honestly bring out the humorous parts.

What kind of work do you think it will be this time?

Tsujimoto : My personal opinion is, ``I'm going to create something you've never seen before, so come and see it.'' Since something new can't be defined, the audience may be confused, but I want to create something that makes people say, ``Oh, I've never seen that before.''

Moriyama : What I want to aim for is ``How can we translate into our work the phenomena that we, who are facing the audience right now, can do?''
It's abstract. So in one word.
Come see the dance performance!

Tomohiko Tsujimoto
Born in Osaka. He did not start dancing as a child, but devoted himself to basketball from elementary school and achieved many successes. He started dancing and snowboarding at the age of 18, and after moving to the United States in 1997, he moved around the world on his own and became the first Japanese male dancer to be featured in Cirque du Soleil in 2007. After that, he successfully completed ``Michael Jackson The Immortal World Tour'' with 485 performances in 27 countries. Currently, he is also active as a choreographer.

Mirai Moriyama
Born in Hyogo Prefecture. He works as an artist who is not bound by categorizations such as theater or dance.
In 2013, he stayed in Israel for one year as a Cultural Envoy for the Agency for Cultural Affairs, and worked in European countries with the Inbal Pinto & Avshalom Pollak Dance Company.
Winner of the 40th Japan Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. Winner of the 10th Japan Dance Forum Award 2015.

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Kyukakuushio
“A Splendid Coincidence” (World Premiere)
[Date] November 22, 2019 (Friday) - December 1, 2019 (Sunday)
[Venue] Yokohama Red Brick Warehouse Building 1 3F Hall

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Applications for the giveaway have ended. Thank you for your many applications.

[Gift application summary]
For each of the following performances, we will give away tickets to see ``Kyuukakuushio's ``Wonderful Coincidence'' (World Premiere), which will be held at the 3rd floor hall of Yokohama Red Brick Warehouse No. 1, to 2 people per group.
■November 26th (Tuesday) 19:00~ 1 group of 2 people
■November 27th (Wednesday) 19:00~ 1 group of 2 people
■November 28th (Thursday) 19:00~ 1 group of 2 people

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[Application deadline]
Until 24:00 on Sunday, November 10, 2019

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